# Is there a reason why the two places you can get the latest universe has different tickers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Signals\ **Created:** [May 5, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218 "2021-05-05T05:28:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![asteeber](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/asteeber/32/605_2.png) [@asteeber](https://forum.numer.ai/u/asteeber)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/1 "2021-05-05T05:28:45Z")
If you go to the [Numerai Signals Tournament page](https://signals.numer.ai/tournament) you can click “Download Latest Universe” which has the AWS endpoint: `https://numerai-signals-public-data.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/example_predictions/latest.csv` But if you go to the [Numerai Signals Overview page](https://docs.numer.ai/numerai-signals/signals-overview) and click “latest universe file” it has a different endpoint: `https://numerai-signals-public-data.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/universe/latest.csv` I loaded both csv’s in R and I got the following results: ``` > tickers_from_tournament <- c(unique(universe_from_tournament$bloomberg_ticker)) > tickers_from_overview <- c(unique(universe_from_overview$bloomberg_ticker)) > length(tickers_from_tournament) [1] 4764 > length(tickers_from_overview) [1] 5433 ``` It looks like the universe from the docs page is correct and the one from the tournament page is not correct. I understand that the tournament page endpoint is an example signal submission but shouldn’t that example include _all_ of the tickers in the current universe? ---
**Author:** ![chaotician](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@chaotician](https://forum.numer.ai/u/chaotician)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/2 "2021-05-31T09:33:27Z")
Yes, this is confusing. They also change from bloomberg\_ticker to numerai\_ticker, prediction to signal recently on submission example. This really messes up proper mapping most specially if we are incorporating from different data sources. I know it is still a big work in progress but I hope they have better revision management/messaging and up to date consistent links to its universe / targets. ---
**Author:** ![joakim](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/joakim/32/3442_2.png) [@joakim](https://forum.numer.ai/u/joakim)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/3 "2021-06-01T09:39:44Z")
Can this be fixed please LiamHz or EasyMikeP aka @master_key ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![\_liamhz](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/_liamhz/32/1368_2.png) [@\_liamhz](https://forum.numer.ai/u/_liamhz)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/4 "2021-06-04T17:30:27Z")
Thanks for reporting this! The link on the tournament page pointed to a no longer updated universe file, this has been corrected to point to the same universe linked to in the docs. ---
**Author:** ![\_liamhz](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/_liamhz/32/1368_2.png) [@\_liamhz](https://forum.numer.ai/u/_liamhz)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/5 "2021-06-04T17:30:58Z")
> They also change from bloomberg\_ticker to numerai\_ticker, prediction to signal recently on submission example. This really messes up proper mapping The example may have changed, but you should still be able to make Signals submissions with the columns bloomberg\_ticker and prediction (or just rename the new columns to what they were previously) ---
**Author:** ![asteeber](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/asteeber/32/605_2.png) [@asteeber](https://forum.numer.ai/u/asteeber)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/6 "2021-06-04T17:46:05Z")
Awesome thanks! Is this perhaps worthy of a bounty? 👀 0x0000000000000000000000000000000000022041 ---
**Author:** ![\_liamhz](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/_liamhz/32/1368_2.png) [@\_liamhz](https://forum.numer.ai/u/_liamhz)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/7 "2021-06-04T17:57:57Z")
Yep! I’ll send a small bounty in NMR stake credits to your account. Is asteeber the account you’d like me to send it to? ---
**Author:** ![asteeber](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/asteeber/32/605_2.png) [@asteeber](https://forum.numer.ai/u/asteeber)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/8 "2021-06-04T18:29:38Z")
Yes, thank you so much! NumerAI is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![chaotician](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@chaotician](https://forum.numer.ai/u/chaotician)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/is-there-a-reason-why-the-two-places-you-can-get-the-latest-universe-has-different-tickers/3218/9 "2021-06-04T20:06:19Z")
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