# Selling Predictions via NumerBay

**URL:** <https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344>\
**Category:** Tournament\
**Created:** [May 1, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344 "2022-05-01T21:04:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![dzheng1887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f475e1/32.png) [@dzheng1887](https://forum.numer.ai/u/dzheng1887)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/1 "2022-05-01T21:04:48Z")

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Can someone help me understand how NumerBay works? I see others here who are selling their predictions for 1 NMR, but I do not feel that is enough to make selling on that platform worthwhile.

I am thinking of putting my main model for the regular tournament for sale, but I don’t really understand the ramifications. For the past 13 weeks (include unresolved weeks) since I have started, it averages 0.0320 corr, 0.0156 MMC and 0.0432 TC.

I also have another one that averages 0.0311 corr, 0.0087 mmc and 0.0274 TC over the past 15 weeks. I also have some other NN models that I just developed, but will still need time to evaluate for TC.

Thanks for any help.

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**Author:** ![restrading](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/restrading/32/2928_2.png) [@restrading](https://forum.numer.ai/u/restrading)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/2 "2022-05-02T01:21:25Z")

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Hi @dzheng1887 you can list at any price you are comfortable with, and you can also set different price levels for different options (e.g. 3 NMR for stake only submission without files, 5 NMR for getting the files, etc.)

You can follow the steps here to get your models listed: [Sell a Product | NumerBay](https://docs.numerbay.ai/docs/tutorial-basics/sell-a-product)

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**Author:** ![johnnywhippet](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/johnnywhippet/32/2803_2.png) [@johnnywhippet](https://forum.numer.ai/u/johnnywhippet)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/3 "2022-05-02T21:34:08Z")

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it costs nothing apart from 5 minutes of your time to sell on numerbay. as you’ve already created predictions for the main tournament its a no-brainer to get them on numberbay - if they’re any good. what’s your ranking? don’t want to sound like I’m boasting but I’ve earned a decent return from numberbay - for not much effort.

JW

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**Author:** ![dzheng1887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f475e1/32.png) [@dzheng1887](https://forum.numer.ai/u/dzheng1887)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/4 "2022-05-02T22:18:28Z")

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Thank you for your advice and sharing your experience. The rankings are not that great because I’ve only been running the models for 15 weeks.

One thing I wasn’t sure about is if the TC Would change much if others stake on it too

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**Author:** ![johnnywhippet](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/johnnywhippet/32/2803_2.png) [@johnnywhippet](https://forum.numer.ai/u/johnnywhippet)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/5 "2022-05-02T22:23:33Z")

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sounds like TC is significantly impacted only on very high stakes… there was a post by mdo saying just that i think.

if your model is good or highly rankedthough , get it on numberbay and make some loot! what’s the model name you’re thinking of selling preds for ?

JW.

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**Author:** ![dzheng1887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f475e1/32.png) [@dzheng1887](https://forum.numer.ai/u/dzheng1887)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/6 "2022-05-02T23:11:37Z")

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Thanks for that, I’ll take a look. I can offer on these two, but their tournament experience is limited. The validation diagnostics also looked good though.

[https://numer.ai/dz\_model0](https://numer.ai/dz_model0)  
[https://numer.ai/dz\_model1](https://numer.ai/dz_model1)

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**Author:** ![johnnywhippet](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/johnnywhippet/32/2803_2.png) [@johnnywhippet](https://forum.numer.ai/u/johnnywhippet)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/7 "2022-05-03T13:47:27Z")

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They look thoroughly decent! Nowt to lose by trying to sell them. Nothing at all.

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**Author:** ![dzheng1887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f475e1/32.png) [@dzheng1887](https://forum.numer.ai/u/dzheng1887)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/8 "2022-05-03T14:46:14Z")

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Thank you! these were made on v3 data. Haven’t really had a chance to look at v4 yet. Wanted to pivot to signals as well.

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**Author:** ![nyuton](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/nyuton/32/687_2.png) [@nyuton](https://forum.numer.ai/u/nyuton)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/9 "2022-09-29T08:41:08Z")

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Do buyers automatically get my predictions, when they buy it, or do I have to send the the files manually?  
How does it work?

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**Author:** ![restrading](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/restrading/32/2928_2.png) [@restrading](https://forum.numer.ai/u/restrading)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:24am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/10 "2022-09-29T10:24:50Z")

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@nyuton You need to upload through the UI or the numerbay Python client. You can set up automation so you don’t have to do manually. [Automate Submissions (seller) | NumerBay](https://docs.numerbay.ai/docs/tutorial-extras/api-automation)

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**Author:** ![themicon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/themicon/32/2487_2.png) [@themicon](https://forum.numer.ai/u/themicon)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:07am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/11 "2022-09-30T06:07:49Z")

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Also remember that you cannot upload the predictions before someone actually bought the predictions. I’ve automated the upload process, but sometimes my pipeline finishes before a sale and I have to then manually upload that sale using the UI.

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**Author:** ![restrading](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/restrading/32/2928_2.png) [@restrading](https://forum.numer.ai/u/restrading)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/selling-predictions-via-numerbay/5344/12 "2022-09-30T06:10:21Z")

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@themicon that’s the case for encrypted listings. If a listing is not using encryption then it can be uploaded anytime.

For encrypted listings you can either automate via webhook ([docs here](https://docs.numerbay.ai/docs/tutorial-extras/api-automation#webhook-trigger)) or do the NumerBay submission close to the deadline to cover all existing orders (but make sure to do it at least 30 minutes before round deadline)
