# Why this error occurring even though I am using id's from example prediction file

**URL:** <https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733>\
**Category:** Tournament\
**Created:** [July 29, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733 "2020-07-29T10:52:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![falsemodel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@falsemodel](https://forum.numer.ai/u/falsemodel)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/1 "2020-07-29T10:52:05Z")

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{“ok”: false, “code”: “invalid\_submission\_ids”, “message”: “ids must match ids in tournament data exactly, including ordering”}

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**Author:** ![wigglemuse](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/wigglemuse/32/3094_2.png) [@wigglemuse](https://forum.numer.ai/u/wigglemuse)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/2 "2020-07-30T23:06:08Z")

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Including the top header? Are you just trying to submit the examples or you’ve replaced the predictions or what?

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**Author:** ![falsemodel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@falsemodel](https://forum.numer.ai/u/falsemodel)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/3 "2020-08-02T15:16:53Z")

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Top header was just fine. I just replaced the prediction numbers with new one. Anyway this seems to be a bug , Just submitted new prediction this week with same script and it just worked fine.

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**Author:** ![jeremy\_berros](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/jeremy_berros/32/3478_2.png) [@jeremy\_berros](https://forum.numer.ai/u/jeremy_berros)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/4 "2020-08-30T21:04:28Z")

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Same issue here with my submission today using ids from numerai\_tournament\_data.csv. Tried both the API and manual Upload. Still same outcome.

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**Author:** ![krizmanic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/krizmanic/32/3106_2.png) [@krizmanic](https://forum.numer.ai/u/krizmanic)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/5 "2020-08-31T14:08:22Z")

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I’ve only had that happen 2 ways that I can remember.

1. Submitting predictions on an old tournament\_data.csv file
2. Shuffling the output data relative to the input data, in the past at least, order seemed to matter.

The easiest double-check is to take the example predictions (from the correct week, of course) and look for any structural differences between your output file and that file.

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**Author:** ![jeremy\_berros](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex009/user_avatar/forum.numer.ai/jeremy_berros/32/3478_2.png) [@jeremy\_berros](https://forum.numer.ai/u/jeremy_berros)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.numer.ai/t/why-this-error-occurring-even-though-i-am-using-ids-from-example-prediction-file/733/6 "2020-08-31T17:38:18Z")

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Thanks for the response. I figured it out. I forgot to add validation data before submitting. Thanks again